Gracie Abrams & Olivia Rodrigo: Songwriting Secrets Revealed

Gracie Abrams and Olivia Rodrigo, who first connected over five years ago on Instagram, recently reunited for a Spotify conversation, discussing their evolving careers and enduring friendship. The two pop stars, who previously toured together, delved into their shared passion for songwriting.

Abrams discussed her approach to writing about love and past conflicts for her upcoming album, "Daughter From Hell," due in nine days. She explained her new method of writing about difficult relationships with more restraint and honesty, avoiding past tendencies to be "careless" about the impact on subjects.

Rodrigo expressed admiration for Abrams' mature songwriting on "Daughter From Hell," particularly the song "Afflictions," which Abrams described as a rare, straightforward love song. The two reminisced about their early connection, with Abrams crediting Rodrigo for inspiring her music career and Rodrigo acknowledging Abrams' unique songwriting talent.